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GSCH Home Campaign

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verve
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Posted On: 08/02/2015 at 03:46 AM
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Looks like we have a few weeks to decide, but swapping campaigns and "travel to player" will be difficult or not allowed, we need a home campaign.  AvA players please poll the other guilds you run with to find out their plans, chime in with your preferences re. the new campaign scoring system, lets see if we can come to consensus on where we should be heading to. 

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Cyrodiil Campaign Changes
Campaigns are undergoing rule changes for encouraging different styles of gameplay within the campaigns, including non-veteran campaigns now lasting 7 days instead of 5 days.

  • Azura: Ownership of keeps, resources, Elder Scrolls, and outposts will generate one point each per scoring cycle, and lasts 30 days.
  • Blackwater Blade (non-Veteran only): Ownership of keeps, resources, Elder Scrolls, and outposts will generate one point each per scoring cycle, and lasts 7 days.
  • Chillrend: Keeps, outposts, and resources will generate zero points. Ownership of Elder Scrolls will generate one point per scoring cycle, and lasts 7 days.
  • Haderus: Keeps, outposts, and Elder Scrolls will generate zero points. Ownership of resources will generate one point per scoring cycle, and lasts 7 days.
  • Thornblade: Resources, outposts, and Elder Scrolls will generate zero points. Ownership of keeps will generate one point per scoring cycle, and lasts 7 days.


» Edited on: 2015-08-02 11:45:15

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Azura and Blackwater i believe will be our best fit for the total siege warfare experience.

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I was going to say the ones that give points for everything would be best and I know you said that on the summit last night, too, Fog.

You will NOT be able to travel to a player in Cyrodiil once this goes live on 8/31.

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Draoi de na Aracos Dubh
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Replied On: 08/02/2015 at 12:48 PM PDT
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i'm the antithesis of the AvA guru, but don't the "other" Alliances pretty much wipe EP whenever they choose?  I do know i've swapped home campaigns several times (for the Cyrodill buff).  by that measure, would we be better off in one of the other campaigns.  looks like Thornblade would be the 'siege-e-est' with keep owning the only way to earn points.

we have lots of Family Members that AvA everyday just not with GSCH, if the majority of those players plan to home campaign in the same map, that would be our best bet for growing AvA and having larger GSCH AvA events.  I hope we can get some input from the hardcore AvA players prior to the end of Aug, and make our home campaign decision then.

 

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Agreed Verve, we will wait to declare an official campaign until the end of the month after people have spoken but right now if we want a true AvA experience Azuras is going to need to be where we go.  However that said if the majority of our players only choose a campaign for the buffs, then the small scale resource camp map might be best.

 

Update: Campaign Buffs no longer carry over to PvE

» Edited on: 2015-08-02 13:34:35



» Edited on: 2015-08-02 13:46:42

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Here's the full notes for Reference. Looks like Campaign buffs actually WONT carry over to PvE anymore. I highlighted major changes that will affect AvA. Most of which for the positive. We lost a lot of people because these things were in game.

 

Cyrodiil Updates
Several major updates are going into Cyrodiil this patch which will include reinforcement to Scroll Temples, Campaign changes, and quality of life adjustments.

  • The Former Emperor buffs are being removed from the game.
    • You will only get Emperor buffs while you are actively Emperor.
    • You will be granted the Emperor skill line and abilities upon earning Emperorship, without the need to spend ability points.
    • Anyone that has spent points in the Emperor skill line will be refunded those skill points.
  • Elder Scroll Temples now have a barrier around Scrolls which are up when their corresponding gates are closed. This barrier will drop only when the gates are open.
  • The Battle Spirit buff has been adjusted and now has 30% more damage reduction, 35% less healing received, and 50% less damage shield strength.
  • Increased the under population Alliance Point bonus that alliances receive to 20% from 10%.
  • Under population scoring bonuses will now apply quadruple the scoring points earned.
  • Reduced the minimum amount of player characters needed to qualify for the under population bonus to 20 player characters per evaluation interval, which is 30 minutes.
  • Increased the underdog scoring Alliance Point bonuses that alliances receive to 20% from 10%.
  • Reduced the underdog scoring evaluation and application periods to 30 minutes.
  • Underdog scoring bonuses will now apply triple the scoring points earned.
  • Reduced the cost of Full Grand Soul gems sold by vendors to 750 AP from 3600 AP.
  • Increased the Alliance Points received when resurrecting other player characters to 50 AP from 20 AP.
  • Adjusted the Line of Sight checks on ranged guards to aid in “stuck in combat” issues.
  • The Keep Wall upgrade now gives 25% more hit points to walls and towers per upgrade level.
  • Increased the amount of stone, food, and ore gathered at resources based on the “Gathered Amount” upgrade by 25%.
  • Increased the amount of stone, food, and ore generated at resources based on the “Base Resources Increased” upgrade by 40%.
  • There is a new camera setting available for siege weapons that will constrict the camera to the movement of the targeting reticle of the weapon. This can be found in the Settings > Camera menu.
  • Reduced the cost to re-assign your campaign at the end of a campaign to 50 Alliance Points from 100 Alliance Points.
  • You can no longer travel to another player character that's in a PvP zone.
  • Campaign buffs will now be applied only in PvP zones.


Cyrodiil Campaign Changes
Campaigns are undergoing rule changes for encouraging different styles of gameplay within the campaigns, including non-veteran campaigns now lasting 7 days instead of 5 days.

  • Azura: Ownership of keeps, resources, Elder Scrolls, and outposts will generate one point each per scoring cycle, and lasts 30 days.
  • Blackwater Blade (non-Veteran only): Ownership of keeps, resources, Elder Scrolls, and outposts will generate one point each per scoring cycle, and lasts 7 days.
  • Chillrend: Keeps, outposts, and resources will generate zero points. Ownership of Elder Scrolls will generate one point per scoring cycle, and lasts 7 days.
  • Haderus: Keeps, outposts, and Elder Scrolls will generate zero points. Ownership of resources will generate one point per scoring cycle, and lasts 7 days.
  • Thornblade: Resources, outposts, and Elder Scrolls will generate zero points. Ownership of keeps will generate one point per scoring cycle, and lasts 7 days.


Cyrodiil Reward Improvements
Eleven existing Item Sets have been expanded and made more available in Cyrodiil, and we’ve also improved the loot you receive at the end of a Campaign.

  • The Rewards for the Worthy can now potentially include items from a wide variety of existing item sets, and will include every level and Veteran Rank so they can be enjoyed by anyone of any level.
  • We’ve significantly increased the amount of gold you get from end-of-campaign mails and from Leaderboard mails.
  • If you are a part of the winning Alliance and have earned a significant amount of AP during the Campaign, you will also be awarded with a bevy of loot, similar to the Leaderboard mails but of a lesser quality.
    • These items will always be from one of the item sets found in the Rewards for the Worthy or Leaderboard mails.
  • All end-of-campaign mails now include a number of Keep Wall Masonry Repair Kits.
    • If your Alliance was in first place, you’ll receive 20 kits.
    • If your Alliance was in second place, you’ll receive 10 kits.
    • If your Alliance was in third place, you’ll receive 5 kits.
  • Removed the Top 5% Leaderboard Campaign rewards.

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Draoi de na Aracos Dubh
verve
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Replied On: 08/02/2015 at 03:54 PM PDT
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it seems pretty clear that Azura's needs to be our home vet campaign.  now if they can just fix the laaaaaaag....

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Cam
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Replied On: 08/03/2015 at 03:39 PM PDT

The original thought is where i fall as well. Vet - Azura and nonvet - Blackwater. AvA events have not stopped. We do still run them at the scheduled times. When a leader is out there are a few of us who step up and fill in. The weekend runs slacked off because i did not wish to step on pre-planned trials and other events. However, due to current happenings i will be starting them again as soon as i get back from vacation.

Cambill

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DeaconGrim
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Replied On: 08/03/2015 at 08:43 PM PDT

I'm for Azura's and Blackwater Blade as well. The fact that resources will count as much as a keep should encourage the enemy to spread out and also discourage huge bunching up that will cause lag.

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Doreth
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Replied On: 08/04/2015 at 04:11 AM PDT

I will be on azura..  simply because SWP will be home there

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Replied On: 08/04/2015 at 11:24 AM PDT

@Cam looking forward to weekend GSCH PVP events since my work schedule is changing and I will be missing Deacon's & Khaleesi's. :(

I am also in SWP but don't run with them as much as Doreth.  Quite a few GSCHers are in that guild as well so it would be nice to align our campaigns with SWP.  

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Doreth
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Replied On: 09/03/2015 at 05:09 AM PDT

just to let GSCH know.. SWP has Move to the new 30 campaign (I forget the name)  queue have been plaguing us so we have officially home the new campaign

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Replied On: 09/03/2015 at 05:42 AM PDT
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Azura'a has been Pop locked for all factions since IC dropped, we may want to consider the new 30 day campaign 

(the name changed at least twice yesterday).

Also for PvE purposes it would be really helpful if we had an unofficial "Guest" campaign, Thornblade and Chillrend seem to be the EP front runners right now.  Hopefully we can come to a quick consensus before or during the Family Meeting this Saturday.

Where are folks "Guesting"?

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I agree with Verve, I have been going with him on a couple of the Imperial City runs in the afternoon and they are a blast. Most of you know me as a PVE'er but I will admit it has been fun the last couple of days in the City area, Get to do some Questing and Kill some of the yellow and blue along the way, plus it is the only way we are going to get any sort or resource's for better gear.  I plan on hosting some events in the Imperial City once we figure out which campaign we are going to do. I seems the 8 to 12 man groups are just about right to wonder around the city area and still have fun.

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I'm currently set to Azura's as my home and Chillrend as my guest.  The guest choice was do to another group I  got messing around doing end game stuff with thanks to a long time friend.  Some nights getting into Azura HURTS. = )  Last night for Ternie's event was not that bad.  Okay it took several minutes, but most of us got in on time since ternie kept reminding us to get in the queue.  Way more AD zerging at the time we went last night on her event, but it went well for the time I could be there.

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Tried out haderus last night and my god was that boring. Didn't find a single larger fight anywhere. Keep sieges were non-existent. 

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Replied On: 09/03/2015 at 04:29 PM PDT

yeah fog most campaigns are like that right now. campaigns are poplocked but everyone is in IC.... SWP went out Tuesday night and grabed 5 scrolls and 6 keeps before DC decided to put up a defence...  I figure it will be like this for a while or atleast till they change it back to where you need to own your home keep to unlock the city..

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Only thing going on in Cyodiil is one alliance or other owning most of it.  Only one where there is stuff to really take back for us is Azura's because AD keeps trying to hold on to it.  Chillrend would be boring too as far as the Cyrodiil side.  

So....

Who knows when things will be interesting out in Cyrodiil other than putting a bee in AD's bonnet on Azura's.

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Replied On: 09/03/2015 at 05:50 PM PDT
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We can have leaders group queue (we tested today) so not having the same guest campaign is not too terrible... but it does mean somebody has to be out of Cyrodil and queue with those not having that campaign.

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Okay, might want to elaborate in EXACTLY the steps of who gueues and how it works for party members not member of he campaign.  For instance:

1) Who actually clicks for the group to join the compaign?  I'm assuming the leader.

2) What do the other members have to do?  Does the group leader queuing pop up a message for the members asking if they want to join the leader?  Or does it just show on the campaign window that they are in queue?

3) Everyone has to be there for the one minute it is ready deal to click into the campaign?  What if they afk and miss, does the leader have to leave Cyrodiil and re-queue?

4) Don't you just love dealing with an analytical nerd?  I used to right technical how to flow charts for maintenance operations as one of my many jobs.  =)

All of these questions are due to the fact that whether in a group or not, I usually had to queue myself in and without the option of home or guest, I had nothing I could click on to say go there.  At least before the cheat was to travel to player.



» Edited on: 2015-09-04 10:18:41

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1.  The person taking others to the campaign must be group leader.  They queue. 

2.  The other members must simply be in group prior to the queue popping.

3.  Yes, if somebody misses, a person with that campaign set must fetch them (unless they wish to set it.)

4.  Yep!  It's good to deal with the questions!

Yeah, the travel to player is gone, and this isn't a perfect solution.  It does, however, minimize the need to have everyone in the same guest campaign.  We should probably still have an official one, but for those with one set outside it who wish to partake in events in said campaign (or those wishing to wait until one is set)... this is a potential solution.

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Okay, I never did it and thought it would be nice to clarify it for everyone.  =)  Thank you!!!

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Replied On: 09/05/2015 at 09:13 AM PDT

I am one of the many GSCH members who is also in SWP - A PVP guild. Doreth is one of their officers as well.  On Wednesday, as Doreth pointed out, they changed their home campaign to Trueflame.  With the inability to travel to players now and my desire to run with both GSCH and SWP, I vote we change to Trueflame.

Also I would like to point out that SWP is very accommodating with us running with running with GSCH during our events even though they have implemented the rule that we should not be running with other guilds. I am sure they have done this is because GSCH is great recruiting resource for them.

Trueflame please!

 



» Edited on: 2015-09-05 09:23:26



» Edited on: 2015-09-05 09:24:08

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Replied On: 09/05/2015 at 04:58 PM PDT

i might have a little something to do with that :)

 

but yeah the one guild rule doesn't apply to pve guilds... it applies to ppl who tend to run a multiple hardcor pvp guild like SWP..  so GSCH smaller ava event do not fall under that rule.  so yes if any of you have a desire to run in a pvp only orientated guild  let me know....

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